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I think you will be able to relate to some of the issues discussed 🙂 And of course I include nonhuman animals in this episode.

Starts at 14 minutes Watch here. You can find Debbie Lusignan on Twitter  and Sane Progressive on Facebook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHZfdW6Y_0w

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